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This Just In From Meredith-Land
On CNBC, a glimpse of an alternate reality

Thomas Brown  ( about me )
Posted 06/22/2010
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tbrown@bankstocks.com

Here’s my pal Meredith Whitney on CNBC yesterday, explaining why she disagrees with my view that, at 1.2 times tangible book, bank stocks are attractive:  

Last year, what happened was, in the first quarter of ’09, it marked the first quarter where [the big banks] started to actually create their own capital and a lot of that was through writing up their carrying values of government mortgage-backed securities—Fannie and Freddie—that put, we estimate, $100 billion in the capital reserves of the top banks. In the first quarter of ’10, you actually saw the first decline in capital values, a reversal of that. Second quarter, I don’t think the banks will be creating their own capital. Why would you pay more than capital for a bank that is not creating its own capital? So what will happen is they will have raised money to buffer writedowns somehow, and so you see the banks—and this is really important—the banks shrinking to free up capital. So you’re buying a shrinking entity to free up capital to play a capital arbitrage to buy back shares. There’s got to be a simpler way to invest. 

And here I thought the gal was incoherent! That second-to-last sentence, in particular, is something to behold. In a way, I guess, it's a sort of bizarre gift.

Some of the other chunks of Meredith’s wad of words above are almost as impenetrable. I have no idea what she means, for example, when she says “I don’t think the banks will be creating their own capital” in the second quarter.

Warning! What follows is so darn basic that it gets covered in the very first month of Accounting 101, right after debits and credits. I apologize in advance if I sound condescending: A bank, like any business, “creates capital” in one of two ways. It can either a) earn a profit and retain that profit in the retained earnings portion of its equity account, or b) raise capital in the securities market via the sale of common shares or some other equity-like instrument such as a convert.  

As I say, this is basic. Further, it is overwhelmingly likely that the banking industry will make money in the second quarter, and for the full year, and in 2011 and 2012, as well. Everyone—including Meredith Whitney herself, judging by the earnings estimates from her firm I see on the Bloomberg—agrees with that. Which is to say, the industry is creating its own capital. Even Meredith says so! I honestly don’t have a clue as to what she’s talking about when she says otherwise.

Speaking of me not having a clue about what Meredith is talking about, I don’t have a clue, either, about what she means when she says that banks will have to “raise money to buffer writedowns.”  The loan loss provisions for the banks she covers have declined for last three quarters, and there’s little doubt that the decline will continue. As provisions decline, earnings will rise, so there will be no need for Meredith’s banks to raise more equity. 

No doubt there’s a credible bearish case to be made on the banks, and Meredith Whitney is of course free to have her own opinion. But her views ought to be based on objective facts in our own world, not ones from the fantasyland she seems to have constructed for herself.

What do you think? Let me know!


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dealraker Posted On 6/22/2010 12:42:04 PM

Tom, this obsession is interesting. I thouroughly-thouroughly enjoy much of your writing but you missed the bank cycle many times worse than Meredith did and now you've spent too much time in envy-land to be thinking clearly. Remember, as Munger says, "Envy is the only sin that gives no pleasure." Stop and go somewhere else with your obsession tendencies---- go anywhere, but get out of this hole you've dug, jumped in, and covered yourself up in.

peter.s Posted On 6/22/2010 1:18:31 PM

man, it must eat you up to have been so wrong in 2008. this obsession with whitney is pathetic. she made you look like a moron, end of story. let it go...

tom clown Posted On 6/22/2010 1:34:11 PM

how does it feel to be OWNED by meredith whitney?? this obession is hilarious... she is clearly renting space in your head.

Bob West Posted On 6/22/2010 2:07:26 PM

Tom, I have been following your thoughts since just before Jamie Dimon joined Bank One in early 2000. I did see Meredith Whitney interviewed and was likewise perplexed about her comments. I worked in banking for about 20 years and while being bearish is certainly her perspective, it was difficult to follow her logic. The U.S. banks in general are much healthier than they were a year ago, most have repaid their TARP funds, and eearnings in Q1 were in general quite strong. You only need to follow the market capitalization of the major financial institutions versus a year ago and it can be clearly seen that they are trending positively. Keep up the good work!

Bryan Posted On 6/22/2010 2:10:57 PM

Just change your investment mandate so that you can short financials. It would end alot of your problems.

Charlie from Wells Posted On 6/22/2010 2:29:04 PM

Love it!!! Keep on dishing it out. So entertaining.

Derek Nelson Posted On 6/22/2010 2:29:22 PM

It would be great if Meredith Whitney wrote an essay bashing your horrendous stock picks over the past few years; she'd definitely have plenty of ammunition. But it's even better that she doesn't bother to comment about you at all.

same old thing Posted On 6/22/2010 2:37:15 PM

Why do you care so much what other analyts have to say,,,, especially Mrs. Whitney? How much of your day do you spend analyzing her.... and not banks.

same old thing Posted On 6/22/2010 2:37:32 PM

Why do you care so much what other analyts have to say,,,, especially Mrs. Whitney? How much of your day do you spend analyzing her.... and not banks.

c smith Posted On 6/22/2010 2:41:36 PM

Take a look at the writeoffs the FDIC is taking week after week on the banks it is euthanizing. Pre seizure, the failing banks report assets somewhere close to liabilities, but then the closure happens and the FDIC (taxpayer) is forced to fork over tens of $ millions to "facilitate" the transactions with buyers. IOW, the asset values are a complete fiction. Why are the balance sheets of bigger banks any different?

slim Posted On 6/22/2010 3:50:54 PM

"why would you pay more than capital for a bank that is not creating its own capital?" would any of you meredith fans mind explaining this investing concept.

Bruno Normandin Posted On 6/22/2010 4:17:45 PM

Meredith was analyst with CIBC Openheimer when American Express decided to spinoff Ameriprise . I asked what would be the impact on the stock price the day that iwtwould be ex-dividend (Ameriprise). She was basically saying that American Express would stay flat and we would get free shares of Ameriprise. So she was advising to buy American Express to get the Ameriprise share for free. I told her that the stock of AXP would fall the next day for the same amount as the value of the new Ameriprise but she didnt understant that simple fact. She made a good call in 2008 with Citigroup and predicting the crisis. But i am not sure it is because of superior intellect...Keep up the good work Tom !

hancol Posted On 6/22/2010 4:20:47 PM

Thanks for posting exactly what i was thinking listening to her interview...no idea what she means and doubt if she knows either.

O'Kane Posted On 6/22/2010 4:23:40 PM

If MW really is your pal, why are you ripping her a new here in print. Just call or email your pal, discuss and ask for clarification. No big deal except for the self inflated.

moneyoutthewazoo Posted On 6/22/2010 4:58:06 PM

She actually doesn't know how to follow a debit or credit through a balance sheet or income statement...because she was a history major. Could someone please tell C Smith that the FDIC is not taxpayer supported? Are you a history major too?

Doc Posted On 6/22/2010 4:58:11 PM

Steve Eisman was ghost writing Meridith Whitney's reports in 2008. She got lucky he picked her as his mouthpiece. Or she is stupid enough to let him do it. Either way, she will eventually implode as she doesn't possess the creative talent or fundamental understanding of finance to be a star analyst. End of story.

Erich Riesenberg Posted On 6/22/2010 5:04:31 PM

Someone please let moneyoutthewazoo understand that a Treasury line of credit for the FDIC definitely is taxpayer support.

Mike Durante Posted On 6/22/2010 5:05:40 PM

Tom - not only has the entire FDIC universe of banks been profitable since the 1Q09, they have been building what are now excess loan loss reserves. This is bank accounting 102. The loan loss reserve also is CAPITAL It's earnings diverted to a contra asset account (a non cash transfer or mere accounting convention). Banks (since SunTrust in the late 1990's) actually have to "reverse-out" the excess loss reserve in future periods and move it back into the standard capital account via excess loss reserve draw-downs. Some banks already have begun to do this - Capital One comes to mind. We calculate that largest, strongest banks such as the one's Ms. Whitney suggests aren't creating capital, actually are experiencing RECORD internal capital generation. This is why the Federal Reserve looks at "primary capital" (equity plus reserves) in assessing "capital adequacy" and why the Fed looks at pre-tax, pre provision earnings as the best gauge of internal capital generation. Ms. Whitney apparently has not read or is unable to comprehend the SCAP white paper the Fed published at the end of the "stress test" in April 2009. Once you are finished instructing her on accounting 101, I think we should take-up a collection and send her to "bank analyst's camp" at the Federal Reserve a.k.a. rookie bank examiner training classes. The Fed will teach her bank accounting the first week she's there and will even give her a diploma if she passes the final exam.

Hodgie Posted On 6/22/2010 5:07:07 PM

Dan, appreciate the comments and keeping it simple as the ego hungry doomsdayers make it hard to ride through this storm. Always love your direct style and still remember you at the NIRI convention many years ago putting the sell-side in their place back then!

kashy Posted On 6/22/2010 5:23:55 PM

Tom has reverse penis envy for Merideth, he wants from her what he can never have. Tom - how far has your fund fallen? 90% from the top?

butterbean Posted On 6/22/2010 5:50:06 PM

Tom, Maybe she got the pile driver treatment from JBL once too many times and she's a little confusimated. What do you think? Let me know! bud

mark Posted On 6/22/2010 6:39:07 PM

Tom I expect Meredith may have lost you in the way she expresses her thoughts. Do you beleive banks are valuing assets on their Balance Sheets honestly relative to current market prices? m

Paul Pazdan Posted On 6/22/2010 6:46:36 PM

Maybe just maybe the banks raise loan loss provisions because things turn worse; is that possible? What else would make for your bearish case? Tom, you have been around the block; please don't dumb down by saying everyone agrees etc. Did everyone agree there was no problem in 2007 re sub prime etc.? Is it possible that bad loans/mortgages are being swept under for political reasons? Similiar to the jobs numbers that are mostly census workers? I am not a conspiracy nut but politics could trump reported numbers in the short term. Be careful!

rs Posted On 6/23/2010 12:12:10 AM

meredith whitney is just a lucky donk who became a posterchild. and yes the paragraph is terribly written. but her meaning when she says creating capital is obvious - accounting capital by way of marking assets. (govt assisted fraud.) obviously tom know this and just wants to bash her - cmon there are better ways

bob goodwin Posted On 6/23/2010 3:26:24 AM

I heard the MW interview, and I understood perferctly. She is saying that book value is not reliable, and even if it were, banks book value will likely shrink. If there is a growth premium, there must be a shrinkage discount.

bank 101 Posted On 6/23/2010 8:51:05 AM

I saw the CNBC segment and couldn't understand what she was saying.

c smith Posted On 6/23/2010 9:24:45 AM

Hey wazoo...fyi the FDIC has a $100 billion standing credit line with Treasury (taxpayer) and the authority to borrow as much as $500 billion through 2010 in an "emergency". As of today, according to the FDIC’s own website, they manage an “insurance fund” of more than “$52.8 billion,” yet the agency “insures more than $4.3 trillion of deposits in 8,494 U.S. banks and thrifts.” Let’s see… $52.8 billion of funds to cover $4.3 trillion of deposits. The FDIC can cover a whopping 1.23% of the total deposits that it claims to insure. Sounds like an "emergency" to me.

Ed Posted On 6/23/2010 9:26:44 AM

What I want to know is ..."How do I unscbscribe from Bankstock?"

valueguydave Posted On 6/23/2010 10:45:05 AM

This is facinating. I guess we can all see why banks trade at what looks like cheap prices... smart, dedicated, educated, investment minded people like those responding here argue at the basic ideas of whether bank assets have anything like balance sheet value intrinsically and whether or not they are making money. I guess that is what makes a market.

John Tschohl Posted On 6/23/2010 11:30:14 AM

Tom I love your no hold comments. Keep up the good work. I can see why you and Vernon get along so well.

Marlboro_Man Posted On 6/23/2010 4:43:12 PM

Tom Brown = Maverick Man

Marlboro_Man Posted On 6/23/2010 4:47:11 PM

Tom Brown = Maverick Man

Marlboro_Man Posted On 6/23/2010 5:38:28 PM

Tom Brown = Maverick Man

buffetstriver Posted On 6/23/2010 9:47:58 PM

Despite my belief that Meredith is a one-hit wonder (on par with the 1990 hit "I Wanna Be Rich") I am struggling with your Accounting 101. Presuming capital in this context is synonymous with equity - how does marking-to-market not create or destroy capital? We also learned in accounting 101 that debits and credits must balance. So when we mark to market - let's say an unrealized gain we debit the investment (asset) and credit either - unrealizd gain which increases net income and ultimately retained earnings (when the books are closed) or AOCI (Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income) which is a component of stockholders' equity Either way the banks capital (i.e. equity is increasing). As far as the banks creating new capital she's probably correct if she is referring to creating capital through mark-to-market accounting - the pro-cyclical volatility there is gone as we settle in to slow growth mode. I think she is dead wrong on the earnings front - most of the banks were way to aggressive in building their loan loss provisions - many I believe took a big bath once they had adequate capital and will have smooth sailing ahead as earnings are boosted by ratcheting down the bloated loss reserves. Management has set themselves up for a stellar performance.

Thom Marblehead is hilarious Posted On 7/1/2010 9:24:55 AM

I've never seen exact figures but based on its top holdings Thom's hedge fund lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 85% in the financial meltdown of 2007-08. Thom mocked anyone who disagreed with his perma-bull views on garbage like New Century and First Marblehead. Now he's obsessed with Meredith Whitney and explaining bank analysis 101? What a fraud. Here's a clue Thom. The dead cat bounce of the financials in the 15 months is every bit as phony as the earnings the garbage you owned claimed in 2006-07.
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