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Subprime Mortgage Delinquencies: The Numbers Are Improving, Whether People Know It Or Not
The pig slowly works its way through the python. . .

Thomas Brown  ( about me )
Posted 07/10/2008
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Have I told you I believe consensus expectations for eventual cumulative subprime mortgage losses are too high? Oh, right, I mentioned it here, here, here, and here. Sorry.

I’ve been hammering away on the topic for weeks now and, for the most part, people seem to think that I’m nuts. One reason why, I suspect, is that my view is so at odds with the nasty mortgage-delinquency data they’ve gotten used to seeing in the headlines month after month. As the L.A. Times reported just a few weeks ago, “U.S. mortgage delinquencies, foreclosures at record highs." Case closed. What’s to argue with?

Actually, plenty. First, the overall delinquency and foreclosure data so beloved of headline writers are terrible indicators of coming changes in subprime-mortgage credit quality. Yes, overall delinquencies—that is, loans at least 30 days past due—are at record highs. Take, for instance, the group of loans we’ve spent a lot of time studying lately, the ones that make up the ABX 06-1 subprime mortgage index. At the end of June, delinquencies on those loans came to $5 billion, compared to just $4.2 billion back in October of 2007. So on the raw numbers, things seem to be getting worse. Take a look:

But as I say, the raw numbers are misleading. Why? Because the oldest, ugliest delinquent loans still haven’t dropped out of the totals. So the overall numbers aren’t showing what’s happening now.

It takes nearly forever, remember, for a delinquent loan to turn into an official realized loss. To understand why, think about how long it takes for a mortgage borrower to go from being current, to delinquent, to having his house repossessed and sold by the bank. First, he has to be 90 days delinquent before the lender will even begin foreclosure proceedings. After that, several more months will have to pass before the property will actually be repossessed. Then the bank still has to sell the darn thing to realize a loss. If you’ve ever sold a house, you know that that it can take six months or more--and you’re not a lumbering bureaucracy.

Get the idea? Add it all up, and a delinquent loan can stay delinquent for close to a year and a half or more before it becomes a realized loss. Until that happens, it remains a delinquent loan. Around here, we have a term for this process. It’s called “getting the pig through the python.”

Relating this to the chart above, yes, overall delinquencies are still rising—but that’s largely because, as I say, the oldest delinquencies are still being counted in the totals. But who cares about them? They’re old news and shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody. A more revealing way to view the numbers is to look at delinquent loans by delinquency bucket, like this:

See what’s going on? The grey bars on the right, especially loans in the process of foreclosure or that have become REO, are the pig in the python I mentioned. Once those properties are repossessed and then sold, which should be any month now, they’ll finally leave the overall delinquency numbers--and the numbers will actually start to fall.

The real, encouraging part of story is what’s going on the left side of the chart. See how newer delinquencies, especially 30-to-60 day and 61-to-90 day, are lower now than they were last October? That’s a big deal: new delinquencies are falling, regardless of what’s gone on with total delinquencies. Once the later-stage delinquencies drop out of the total, the overall delinquency numbers will fall, and everyone will start to see what we know now, that subprime credit quality has indeed turned the corner.

It is, as I say, not a concept most observers are on board with yet. But the numbers are pretty clear. It’s just a matter of time before everyone realizes it.

What do you think? Let me know!


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jamesa40 Posted On 7/10/2008 12:51:57 PM

This is interesting, but what is happening on the 2007 vintages? The first vintages of 2008? What about Prime loans? What's going on there? Is there a bleed-over from subprime? Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks.

alurbano Posted On 7/10/2008 3:31:46 PM

Dear Sir, I have always enjoyed reading your articles and I agree with your comments and analysis most of the time. But I do have a question with regards to your recent posting: I think you stated that a forclosed house has to be sold by the bank to realize a loss. I thought that once it goes into OREO, it does so at the current market value. Is not the loss taken then, and not when the house is resold? My best regards and I kindly await a reply. Al Urbano

alurbano Posted On 7/10/2008 3:39:09 PM

Dear Sir, I have always enjoyed reading your articles and I agree with your comments and analysis most of the time. But I do have a question with regards to your recent posting: I think you stated that a forclosed house has to be sold by the bank to realize a loss. I thought that once it goes into OREO, it does so at the current market value. Is not the loss taken then, and not when the house is resold? My best regards and I kindly await a reply. Al Urbano

MOJO Posted On 7/10/2008 3:44:44 PM

I heard this number from someone that 70% of all foreclosures were result of people walking away because home prices have fallen too much. That's simply the right thing to do. Why bother to pay a mortgage of 500,000 when the underlying home is only worth 300,000. The best way to prevent foreclosures is quite simple, let buyers put enough money as downpayment , say 20%. Then delinquency or foreclosure rates won't be an issue.

mwelmes Posted On 7/10/2008 5:08:00 PM

I have been told that people in CA who purchased a 3,000 sq ft home for $900,000 (No money Down Interest Only) in 2006 can now buy a 4,500 sq ft home next door for $725,000. They scrap 20% together to put down on the 4,500 home and then walk away from the 3,000 sq ft home. They have now lowered their monthly payment... and have moved into a newer/bigger house. Their credit will be messed up for 7 years or so... but so what.... they just increased the size of their home by 50% and have lowered their monthly nut.

nishitmehta Posted On 7/10/2008 5:11:19 PM

i know you keep showing this ,what is happening with alt-a; look at indymac, clearly the markets are in atizzy, the subprime issue has clearly morphed into other areas of credit and it seems that now the market has forgotten the subprime issue per se and now focusing of the chain reaction that it triggerred. curious if you are doing an analysis of alt-a delinquincies as well, and is there an index that tracks it?

jkinzel Posted On 7/10/2008 6:00:15 PM

To the questions re 2007 vintages (which are supposed to be much worse than 2006) and Alt-As, I add what about HELOCs/second liens and option ARMs (I believe there is big reset in 2009)?

hpulickal Posted On 7/10/2008 6:48:50 PM

The loss is only realized when the REO is sold. Although a foreclosure sale occurs at what the bank decides is market value, the house may sell for thousands less and accrue thousands more in property preservation/repair costs, taxes, insurance, etc. This additional loss is figured in the bottom line only when the house is sold.

Tom Posted On 7/10/2008 7:58:22 PM

MOJO sez: "I heard this number from someone that 70% of all foreclosures were result of people walking away because home prices have fallen too much. That's simply the right thing to do." Anyone besides me in favor of bringing back debtors' prisons?

elmar98 Posted On 7/11/2008 8:49:49 AM

Certainly you can also provide us with a graph of the future showing the rate of reduction of 'loans in the "forclosure' process. What would be the rate of decline? Would figures be available to include loans that are 90 days past due. That chart might sway this market and the regulators. Elliot

mkolchins Posted On 7/12/2008 12:44:11 PM

mwelmes, Some how I'm having trouble imagining someone who got a $900K mortgage can put together $150K cash for down payment on a second and can show a lender in this environment that they have the resources to hold a second mortgage for a total of $1,650K between the two walks away from the first. It sounds like an urban myth to me. Tom, I can't believe anyone who put the time into analyzing the sub prime loans the way you have didn't also consider the Alt A's and other exotic loans your critics are questioning right now. If you want people to actually believe you say something about your analysis and assumptions on the rest of the mortgage universe. Your silence here is deafening.

stjames Posted On 7/14/2008 7:37:38 PM

Think foreclosure in process and 91 plus needs to be the key variable. The new versus old delinquencies are a function of tougher, indeed. little subprime lending since fall of 07. How many new subprime loans have been created year to date? Not many is my surmise. Of course that number will be down.

spongebob Posted On 7/16/2008 2:04:52 AM

Do you people think you are nuts? I wrote you once, Tom, about two years ago. Stocks of subprime mortgage companies were weakening and you were upset that people weren't following your advice to buy them. I wrote to ask you about a particular company in which you were invested a day after it took a particular drubbing to see if you would reiterate your advice. You did. The stock was New Century. I am glad I ignored your advice.

spongebob Posted On 7/16/2008 2:05:12 AM

Do you people think you are nuts? I wrote you once, Tom, about two years ago. Stocks of subprime mortgage companies were weakening and you were upset that people weren't following your advice to buy them. I wrote to ask you about a particular company in which you were invested a day after it took a particular drubbing to see if you would reiterate your advice. You did. The stock was New Century. I am glad I ignored your advice.
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